Oh, FFS. Are they going to do a Crotch Inspection of the vendors? And, personally, I like to discuss evolution and the occult while I'm buying my vegetables. /s Welcome to the Dark Ages, Pella.
As a Central College grad I'm saddened, but not surprised to read this. Pella has long been closed to anyone not "like" them, but this really goes too far.
In keeping with the Pella “Christian” spirit I would let their produce rot before purchasing any. When the sale of produce becomes grounds for hatred and bias these people need to re-examine their “Christian” values. There was a time not so long ago when even the suggestion of such a ban on people would have been considered absurd. Not anymore. Not in Pella.
While the policy and conractual agreement to be signed is for the Vendors, there is the one sentence stating that "The manager reserves the sole and unappealable right to determine the appropriateness of all attire and direct a change in clothing or exclude anyone from the premises." Does "anyone" apply only to Vendors or does this include shoppers, passersby, etc.? Shoppers don't have a signed agreement, so what is enforceable on this private property for the public? Is the parking lot really private? Is the City-if they approve-vulnerable for any legal action? What era of gender-appropriate clothing for Vendors (and shoppers if this policy indeed includes them)? I've said for a long time that Pella's claim to be "A City of Refuge" is a typo, with "s" mis-typed as a "g." And you can pronounce the "s" either soft or hard.
Jun 1, 2023·edited Jun 1, 2023Liked by Robert Leonard
How weird. I'm selling my books at Pella Books tomorrow as part of the Great Iowa Road Trip. I made sure that the management was okay with the content (a gay couple in one book for example, dressing as not always associated with birth gender, taking a potion to change gender, discussing evolution, and premarital & marital sex in all of them.) It was absolutely okay. I was even told that yes there is a market for my books in Pella. So I'm not sure why the place would allow this unless they are trying to accommodate all views. Now, let's hear the juice on what Pella residents are behind this. Or do we all know?
Am I to understand that this faction expects to dictate what is to be allowed in the community space of the Farmers Market? Are they asking the City Council to make a policy demanding this? WHAT?! Our market has been so disrupted by our LGBTQ + friends, like NEVER.
Jun 3, 2023·edited Jun 3, 2023Liked by Robert Leonard
I do not recall ever having a discussion with a farmers market vendor about religion, sexuality, politics, abortion, evolution or receiving literature at a farmers market regarding the same topics. I also cannot recall exactly what the vendor was wearing or even their gender preference. Thinking back on my inability to recall any of the above - vegetables must be vegetables regardless if sold by an atheist, transgender individual, or a drag queen.
What do the policies of the proposed market have to do with vegetables or are these policies about exclusion for the sake of exclusion?
I have lived in Pella most of my life, and I love my city. I need to point out that most of these crazy movements in town (book banning, this weird market, aggressive evangelizing at Tulip Time) are largely coming from folks moving into town or those who don’t even live in town and are coming in from outside and bringing outside money with them. Please don’t judge everyone by a few of these people.
I think it is likely illegal to have such a policy. Once they sell to the general public they can't discriminate. It is different from the shop that wouldn't do a cake for a gay marriage because it involved the baker's active participation in a ceremony they did not believe in. At the farmer's market they are just selling items to people. It's not like they are being forced to sell t-shirts with LBGTQ supportive messages.
Christians want places they can shop and sell without constantly having perverse sexual deviancy shoved in their faces. You have the whole world—full of gay this gay that. Behave like moral, sane adults and Christians won’t mind doing business with you. Keep acting like sexual deviants and Christians will want to avoid you more and more. It the way it works. It’s only reasonable.
Oh, FFS. Are they going to do a Crotch Inspection of the vendors? And, personally, I like to discuss evolution and the occult while I'm buying my vegetables. /s Welcome to the Dark Ages, Pella.
I am not LGBTQ, but I am sick and tired of the small-mindedness exhibited in excluding those folks from any public event.
I don't believe that I will be visiting Pella anytime soon — for any purpose.
As a Central College grad I'm saddened, but not surprised to read this. Pella has long been closed to anyone not "like" them, but this really goes too far.
In keeping with the Pella “Christian” spirit I would let their produce rot before purchasing any. When the sale of produce becomes grounds for hatred and bias these people need to re-examine their “Christian” values. There was a time not so long ago when even the suggestion of such a ban on people would have been considered absurd. Not anymore. Not in Pella.
While the policy and conractual agreement to be signed is for the Vendors, there is the one sentence stating that "The manager reserves the sole and unappealable right to determine the appropriateness of all attire and direct a change in clothing or exclude anyone from the premises." Does "anyone" apply only to Vendors or does this include shoppers, passersby, etc.? Shoppers don't have a signed agreement, so what is enforceable on this private property for the public? Is the parking lot really private? Is the City-if they approve-vulnerable for any legal action? What era of gender-appropriate clothing for Vendors (and shoppers if this policy indeed includes them)? I've said for a long time that Pella's claim to be "A City of Refuge" is a typo, with "s" mis-typed as a "g." And you can pronounce the "s" either soft or hard.
For a religious community, Pella seems rather hateful. I’ll enjoy spring flowers closer to home.
How weird. I'm selling my books at Pella Books tomorrow as part of the Great Iowa Road Trip. I made sure that the management was okay with the content (a gay couple in one book for example, dressing as not always associated with birth gender, taking a potion to change gender, discussing evolution, and premarital & marital sex in all of them.) It was absolutely okay. I was even told that yes there is a market for my books in Pella. So I'm not sure why the place would allow this unless they are trying to accommodate all views. Now, let's hear the juice on what Pella residents are behind this. Or do we all know?
Am I to understand that this faction expects to dictate what is to be allowed in the community space of the Farmers Market? Are they asking the City Council to make a policy demanding this? WHAT?! Our market has been so disrupted by our LGBTQ + friends, like NEVER.
I do not recall ever having a discussion with a farmers market vendor about religion, sexuality, politics, abortion, evolution or receiving literature at a farmers market regarding the same topics. I also cannot recall exactly what the vendor was wearing or even their gender preference. Thinking back on my inability to recall any of the above - vegetables must be vegetables regardless if sold by an atheist, transgender individual, or a drag queen.
What do the policies of the proposed market have to do with vegetables or are these policies about exclusion for the sake of exclusion?
Ok, don’t shop there. Easy enough.
The City Council’s policies raise issues of violations of the public accommodation portions of state law.
I will be interested in how this turns out. So different from life in Boston.
Margaret
I have lived in Pella most of my life, and I love my city. I need to point out that most of these crazy movements in town (book banning, this weird market, aggressive evangelizing at Tulip Time) are largely coming from folks moving into town or those who don’t even live in town and are coming in from outside and bringing outside money with them. Please don’t judge everyone by a few of these people.
I think it is likely illegal to have such a policy. Once they sell to the general public they can't discriminate. It is different from the shop that wouldn't do a cake for a gay marriage because it involved the baker's active participation in a ceremony they did not believe in. At the farmer's market they are just selling items to people. It's not like they are being forced to sell t-shirts with LBGTQ supportive messages.
It's going to be called Farmers' Market but in Dutch. Not exactly reflective of the modern Netherlands. Or the Netherlands ever.
Christians want places they can shop and sell without constantly having perverse sexual deviancy shoved in their faces. You have the whole world—full of gay this gay that. Behave like moral, sane adults and Christians won’t mind doing business with you. Keep acting like sexual deviants and Christians will want to avoid you more and more. It the way it works. It’s only reasonable.